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    « on: July 30, 2009, 11:23:55 PM »

    This time there are voices for most scenes. (that have relevance)
    i've continued it alot, its come quite a ways.

    special thanks to
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    and several others for your voices!

    ENJOY THE GAME! YOU'LL KNOW WHEN ITS OVER.
    AND IF IT DOESNT WORK, IT ENDS AT LORD TOWER NUMBER 2!

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    « Reply #1 on: July 31, 2009, 01:25:12 AM »

    very very nice! i played through the entire beta in one go, it was really fun. those damn scorpions beat the utter crap out of me but i never died once so i'm proud. i like the mild comedy in it and the fighting is what i'd expect of an RPG.
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    « Reply #2 on: July 31, 2009, 01:38:24 AM »

    really??!?

    you played throught the ENTIRE thing? got to the end?

    no glitchs like wrong teleport positions?
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    « Reply #3 on: July 31, 2009, 01:47:07 AM »

    i played up to the point where you go outside after the imp from the dungeon so if thats where the end of the beta is then yes, i did. i didn't notice anything wrong with the teleportations, they took me to where they were supposed to in the story and i never got teleported wrongly (bad grammar i know). what did you expect to happen so i can check it out if you want?
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    « Reply #4 on: July 31, 2009, 11:44:26 AM »

    === A Melchior M. Philips Review ===

    Since Ryon has 9 years of RPG experience, I'm going to treat him as a pro, rather than a noob. I'm gonna be a total bitch, but critique will help you out more than me saying "That was awesome, keep it up!"

    Things I'll Be Checking:
    - Graphics
    - Sounds
    - Hierarchy
    - Tutorial Mechanics
    - Fun
    - Voice-Acting
    - Cliffhanger effect(Whether I want to play the full game or not)
    - Balance
    - Bugs
    - Logic
    - Other Notes

    Graphics

    - The first thing I noticed is that you use ALOT of the common RTP. That kind of makes you look like a noob. I suggest you make your own or get some at http://charas-project.net.

    Sounds

    - the music gets annoying. have some more variations. like, have a different tune when you walk inside a house.

    Hierarchy
    - There's an abundance of great settings all around. nothing looks too full or too empty. that's definatly a great thing to accomplish.

    Tutorial Mechanics
    - ...Where are they? did you secretly hide them? I'm pretty sure there's at least ONE noob going liek "HOW DOE I SPEAK TWO PEOEPLE>Huh?". people might also not be sure how to battle or how to equip items and weapons, or even how to save. you should have at least one tutorial.

    Fun

    - As a grammar-Nazi, finding grammar and spelling error was my fun.

    - apart from that, the game was certainly enjoyable, but I hope the full-game has a story-line, rather than just "random kid goes explore for no appearant reason and stuff happens". I want the kid to have a sad background, I want someone(or the world) to be saved, I want at least two awesome things happening, and I want something bad to happen to Krauser.

    Voice-Acting

    - was pretty funny. not especially bad or anything. some voices (like Krauser's a some point) could have a higher volume.

    Cliffhanger effect

    - There was a dire lack of a story line. if this wasn't made by you but just someone random I would honestly not like to play the entire game. there's nothing to make me wonder what happens next. I wnt you to insert a story-line, and a good one too.

    Balance

    - the 200$ and the so-and-so many potions at the beginning are a shame. Usually the problem with games made with RPGmaker is that they have too little random monster fights, and thus you can't level up and get stronger. you should really have more random battles and more monsters that slowly build up to become stronger. use Pokémon or the more recent Megaman games as a reference.

    - You and the monsters start out too strong. you should really not have more than 200 HP at the beginning, and be able to beat the random monster battles with that amount.

    - Normal potions really don't heal you 500 HP. and High Potions heal you 2500? holy shat.

    - The first spawned battle was too soon, too easy, and gave me too much Exp. I went level up by fighting three battles. and I leveled up again after two more battles. and I leveled up after three more battles. etc.

    - I had to use three potions in one random battle. do I suck so much?

    - Those rats kicked my ass. they do Body Attack WAAAAAAAY too often. I get stunned the entire time and then I died because I was unable to do ANYTHING.

    - I can't save. ANYWHERE!!!! You should insert more save points o_O also if you always save using save points, please remove the saving option from the menu.

    - Throw in some Magic Potions in the game.

    Bugs
    - In the starting town, in front of the red house and the pub, you can walk over the edges, which is pretty wierd.

    - You can jump over the save point in Dungeon Region without getting Blazed.

    - In dungeon region, where you push the rock into the lava, I pressed forward and shift and I ended up jumping around in lava without getting blazed-ish wierd.

    - I Can't move after the Imp Shows up in front of the church? is that the end? of so, please put a big "END OF DEMO" notice for future reference.

    Logic
    - You can just walk in and say hi to the major? wow.

    - What's that church doing in the middle of freaking nowhere?

    - As funny as it was, Nun's are supposed to stay virgins and don't have sexual intercource unless they're married. So... that was funny, but kinda wierd.

    Other Notes
    - The download is so huge, but I guess I'm the only one with the RTP on my PC, so it doesn't matter.

    - I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that cares, but watch your grammar. Your/You're, They're/Their/There, un captalized I's, etc. I especially like "The most stupidest thing". you used two different superlatives at the same time LOL.

    - there is no-one behind the bar in the Pub Sad I want to buy me some alchohol.


    In conclusion, the game was actually pretty... bad and noobish. sorry to say, but you really have alot to fix.
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    « Reply #5 on: July 31, 2009, 12:06:14 PM »

    Its just a beta Melchoir, i'm sure he's working on or has fixed many of these problems. though, this is very solid feedback so nice job. one thing to add to it as far as the monsters go. some are WAY to strong. the rats i could deal with fairly easily actually once i got a party of 4 with me they were no problem, HOWEVER, when you first enter the dungeon, when its jsut Hiero and Krauser, if you face 3 scorpions together, they can easily demolish you. they can poison very easily and since you start off with only 5 antidotes your screwed in less than 1 fight. also, they are hard to beat. even 1 takes about 3-4 turns and i'm USING techs about 2 of those turns. i had to use "escape" after just 2 fights because both Hiero and Krauser were poisoned and i was running low on items. i'm gonna say thank god for Krauser's "heal" spell on that one.
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    « Reply #6 on: July 31, 2009, 12:12:58 PM »

    Its just a beta Melchoir, i'm sure he's working on or has fixed many of these problems.

    I'm pretty sure Beta's are existing for troubleshooting and acknowledging what has to be fixed before the game(or whatever)'s initial release.

    I just gave him feedback, I told him the things that I want him to fix or alter. that's pretty much it. no harm done! =D

    though, this is very solid feedback so nice job

    Thanks. I'm an actor, I get trained and drilled to do this sort of stuff.
    I also have alot of RPGmaker experience myself so I know the do's and don't and whatever's.
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    « Reply #7 on: August 01, 2009, 08:40:31 AM »

    yeah, i don't have it installed and it worked for me so you should be good Tails
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    « Reply #8 on: August 05, 2009, 02:28:17 AM »

    You prolly didn't compress the RTP stuff with it.
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    « Reply #9 on: August 08, 2009, 11:13:47 PM »

    === A Melchior M. Philips Review ===

    Since Ryon has 9 years of RPG experience, I'm going to treat him as a pro, rather than a noob. I'm gonna be a total bitch, but critique will help you out more than me saying "That was awesome, keep it up!"

    Things I'll Be Checking:
    - Graphics
    - Sounds
    - Hierarchy
    - Tutorial Mechanics
    - Fun
    - Voice-Acting
    - Cliffhanger effect(Whether I want to play the full game or not)
    - Balance
    - Bugs
    - Logic
    - Other Notes

    Graphics

    - The first thing I noticed is that you use ALOT of the common RTP. That kind of makes you look like a noob. I suggest you make your own or get some at http://charas-project.net.

    i refuse to use those.
    THE PURPOSE OF THE GAME WAS TO SHOW PEOPLE WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH BASIC RPG MAKER VX SPRITES.
    and like..10% of my own made sprites.


    Sounds

    - the music gets annoying. have some more variations. like, have a different tune when you walk inside a house.
    well most of it is strictly Chrono Trigger, but i shall change some.

    Hierarchy
    - There's an abundance of great settings all around. nothing looks too full or too empty. that's definatly a great thing to accomplish.
    Thanks, i lack story telling skills, but i excel in terms of using tilesets correctly.
    Tutorial Mechanics
    - ...Where are they? did you secretly hide them? I'm pretty sure there's at least ONE noob going liek "HOW DOE I SPEAK TWO PEOEPLE>Huh?". people might also not be sure how to battle or how to equip items and weapons, or even how to save. you should have at least one tutorial.

    i didnt think it was nessesary, but sure i shall add on.
    Fun

    - As a grammar-Nazi, finding grammar and spelling error was my fun.

    - apart from that, the game was certainly enjoyable, but I hope the full-game has a story-line, rather than just "random kid goes explore for no appearant reason and stuff happens". I want the kid to have a sad background, I want someone(or the world) to be saved, I want at least two awesome things happening, and I want something bad to happen to Krauser.

    but... i'm krauser!.... in anycase... i think i'll use some of myself and my experience from my vacation on it. VERY EMO and lots of CRYING.
    Voice-Acting

    - was pretty funny. not especially bad or anything. some voices (like Krauser's a some point) could have a higher volume.

    yes its all due to everyone having different microphones.

    Cliffhanger effect

    - There was a dire lack of a story line. if this wasn't made by you but just someone random I would honestly not like to play the entire game. there's nothing to make me wonder what happens next. I wnt you to insert a story-line, and a good one too.

    there will be a story eventually, but the game is not a full length game, just something that should take 30 minutes of your life (when complete) or less.
    Balance

    - the 200$ and the so-and-so many potions at the beginning are a shame. Usually the problem with games made with RPGmaker is that they have too little random monster fights, and thus you can't level up and get stronger. you should really have more random battles and more monsters that slowly build up to become stronger. use Pokémon or the more recent Megaman games as a reference.

    i dont think its really nessesary.. since the only monsters that can give trouble are the Flaming Indian. and later on 2 more bosses.
    - You and the monsters start out too strong. you should really not have more than 200 HP at the beginning, and be able to beat the random monster battles with that amount.

    it seemed pretty fair to me. 2 hits kills a slime.
    - Normal potions really don't heal you 500 HP. and High Potions heal you 2500? holy shat.

    yes the values are SUPER irregular. but its DEFAULT
    - The first spawned battle was too soon, too easy, and gave me too much Exp. I went level up by fighting three battles. and I leveled up again after two more battles. and I leveled up after three more battles. etc.
    the point of that was for the player to hit lv.6 by the time they fought Masked Man, or else he could easily take you out with thunder.
    - I had to use three potions in one random battle. do I suck so much?
    no... it happens LOL.
    - Those rats kicked my ass. they do Body Attack WAAAAAAAY too often. I get stunned the entire time and then I died because I was unable to do ANYTHING.
    i'll lower the chance of the move coming up and the setting of it. and i agree... *dies*
    - I can't save. ANYWHERE!!!! You should insert more save points o_O also if you always save using save points, please remove the saving option from the menu.
    i fixed the save anywhere thing, after i posted it, but i had to leave for airport.
    - Throw in some Magic Potions in the game.
    nani?!...sure
    Bugs
    - In the starting town, in front of the red house and the pub, you can walk over the edges, which is pretty wierd.

    - You can jump over the save point in Dungeon Region without getting Blazed.

    - In dungeon region, where you push the rock into the lava, I pressed forward and shift and I ended up jumping around in lava without getting blazed-ish wierd.

    - I Can't move after the Imp Shows up in front of the church? is that the end? of so, please put a big "END OF DEMO" notice for future reference.

    Logic
    - You can just walk in and say hi to the major? wow.

    - What's that church doing in the middle of freaking nowhere?

    - As funny as it was, Nun's are supposed to stay virgins and don't have sexual intercource unless they're married. So... that was funny, but kinda wierd.

    Other Notes
    - The download is so huge, but I guess I'm the only one with the RTP on my PC, so it doesn't matter.

    - I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that cares, but watch your grammar. Your/You're, They're/Their/There, un captalized I's, etc. I especially like "The most stupidest thing". you used two different superlatives at the same time LOL.

    - there is no-one behind the bar in the Pub Sad I want to buy me some alchohol.


    In conclusion, the game was actually pretty... bad and noobish. sorry to say, but you really have alot to fix.


    thanks for the bugs.
    yes i included the RTP for safety for those who dont have it. and its so huge because of all the Audio Files.
    yes i know your a grammer whore. you can spell check the game if you want.

    no alcohol for you... or else one of those spirits will rape you.

    and the game isnt bad your just expecting to much.
    its just a basic example of how maps are made, how dialogue should be handled, how switch and variables are handled, and basic events.

    the voice acting was to make it more funnier.

    THANKS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK!
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    « Reply #10 on: August 09, 2009, 01:46:34 PM »

    no alcohol for you... or else one of those spirits will rape you.

    Sounds like fun to me.

    and the game isnt bad your just expecting to much.
    its just a basic example of how maps are made, how dialogue should be handled, how switch and variables are handled, and basic events.

    ...You have nine years of RPGmaker Experience...
    ... ok sure.
    I was just hoping that you would be making a really cool RPG, but it doesn't matter.
    The RPG you are making now is also pretty awesome.

    THANKS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK!
    YOU'RE WELCOME!
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    « Reply #11 on: August 12, 2009, 11:55:41 PM »

    to upload a patch, would be more work.

    i have to include the audio and such. and the RTP for those (alot) who dont have it.

    however contact me on msn and i'll send it to you rtp free.

    also did you get my message on msn?
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    « Reply #12 on: August 14, 2009, 11:55:03 PM »

    i have alot of sounds in there, i'm not gonna take out some and send you what you didnt have.
    i'm sending everything so you cant complain about missing something.
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    « Reply #13 on: October 02, 2009, 11:39:47 PM »

    I wrote such a huge-ass and offensive review for this. So as I assume you never saw it, just know that I stopped after getting over the bridge as I hated this game.
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    « Reply #14 on: October 03, 2009, 01:34:12 AM »

    Looking good so far......but whats up with the speedy maid in the mayor's house
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